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		<title>By: none</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David George Rosenberg, Unifund CCR Partners LLC founder, chairman and chief executive officer
Residence:
2349 Grandin Road (at the corner of Corbin)
Cincinnati, Ohio
45208
Home Phone: (513) 321-7190
House is across the street from the Cincinnati Country Club 12th tee.
The three-story stucco house has 16 rooms (six bedrooms and nine bathrooms). The house sits on 3.87 acres and has two guest apartments, a pool, a pool house and what is described as a “rose garden non pareil.” There is garage space for six cars. Check it out on Google Earth.
drosenberg@unifund.com
mrdgr@redconnect.net
Born: 1965 - Izmir Turkey
Unmarried  
Lives with Richard Shenk (513) 871-0043 &amp; Betty Ann Shenk (513) 321-0010
All three are heavily involved with the Jewish Federation of Cincinnati: They have summer parties for teens at the house.
Associates: Douglas A. Mallon, Jeffery W. Adams, Jeffery L. Jensen &amp; Jon Alan Bader.
Owns a Challenger 604 Private jet.
All this information is freely available on the internet, just collected in one place here.
If anybody has any more information about this guy, put it on an (anti)Unifund blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David George Rosenberg, Unifund CCR Partners LLC founder, chairman and chief executive officer<br />
Residence:<br />
2349 Grandin Road (at the corner of Corbin)<br />
Cincinnati, Ohio<br />
45208<br />
Home Phone: (513) 321-7190<br />
House is across the street from the Cincinnati Country Club 12th tee.<br />
The three-story stucco house has 16 rooms (six bedrooms and nine bathrooms). The house sits on 3.87 acres and has two guest apartments, a pool, a pool house and what is described as a “rose garden non pareil.” There is garage space for six cars. Check it out on Google Earth.<br />
<a href="mailto:drosenberg@unifund.com">drosenberg@unifund.com</a><br />
<a href="mailto:mrdgr@redconnect.net">mrdgr@redconnect.net</a><br />
Born: 1965 &#8211; Izmir Turkey<br />
Unmarried<br />
Lives with Richard Shenk (513) 871-0043 &amp; Betty Ann Shenk (513) 321-0010<br />
All three are heavily involved with the Jewish Federation of Cincinnati: They have summer parties for teens at the house.<br />
Associates: Douglas A. Mallon, Jeffery W. Adams, Jeffery L. Jensen &amp; Jon Alan Bader.<br />
Owns a Challenger 604 Private jet.<br />
All this information is freely available on the internet, just collected in one place here.<br />
If anybody has any more information about this guy, put it on an (anti)Unifund blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be wary of contacting the IRS about tax liens when they show up on your credit file. You can inadvertently wake a sleeping giant that will wreak havoc on your financial life. Get professional help. It&#039;s worth the investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be wary of contacting the IRS about tax liens when they show up on your credit file. You can inadvertently wake a sleeping giant that will wreak havoc on your financial life. Get professional help. It&#8217;s worth the investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jule</title>
		<link>http://budhibbs.wordpress.com/2006/08/30/credit-bureau-reporting/comment-page-1/#comment-15611</link>
		<dc:creator>Jule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 05:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for such informative forum!

Although these credit bureaus claim that they make every effort to report accurately, I caught at least one bureau, Equifax, failing to report the type of creditor in their database even though they have such a field, &quot;Creditor Classification&quot;. If these bureaus did an earnest job to verify the status of creditors, these subscribers would not have the right to make multiple placements of the original account or create bogus accounts. 

The verification of a creditor would be based on whether it can produce the documents of the original loan agreement and the chain of title from the creditor to the collector.  Otherwise, the debt buyer (collector) is not a party to the original agreement and it cannot report the debt.  It is critical to make this point clear when disputing the credit bureaus because they will toss the investigation back to the consumer if they get an answer from the collector that the debtor &quot;owns&quot; the account. 

Here is a link for the full FCRA and free info for credit repair and debt elimination:

http://www.creditinfocenter.com/

Please read on debt and creditor validation:
http://creditinfocenter.com/rebuild/debt_validation.shtml

How to fix your credit with the bureaus:
http://creditinfocenter.com/repair/Repair.shtml

How to dispute directly with the creditors:
http://creditinfocenter.com/repair/DisputingWithOriginalCreditor.shtml

When writing to the original creditor, state the law clearly and ask them to produce records - this is a good letter sample:

http://www.creditinfocenter.com/forms/sampleletter17.shtml

There is light at the end of the tunnel...

Jule</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for such informative forum!</p>
<p>Although these credit bureaus claim that they make every effort to report accurately, I caught at least one bureau, Equifax, failing to report the type of creditor in their database even though they have such a field, &#8220;Creditor Classification&#8221;. If these bureaus did an earnest job to verify the status of creditors, these subscribers would not have the right to make multiple placements of the original account or create bogus accounts. </p>
<p>The verification of a creditor would be based on whether it can produce the documents of the original loan agreement and the chain of title from the creditor to the collector.  Otherwise, the debt buyer (collector) is not a party to the original agreement and it cannot report the debt.  It is critical to make this point clear when disputing the credit bureaus because they will toss the investigation back to the consumer if they get an answer from the collector that the debtor &#8220;owns&#8221; the account. </p>
<p>Here is a link for the full FCRA and free info for credit repair and debt elimination:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.creditinfocenter.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.creditinfocenter.com/</a></p>
<p>Please read on debt and creditor validation:<br />
<a href="http://creditinfocenter.com/rebuild/debt_validation.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://creditinfocenter.com/rebuild/debt_validation.shtml</a></p>
<p>How to fix your credit with the bureaus:<br />
<a href="http://creditinfocenter.com/repair/Repair.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://creditinfocenter.com/repair/Repair.shtml</a></p>
<p>How to dispute directly with the creditors:<br />
<a href="http://creditinfocenter.com/repair/DisputingWithOriginalCreditor.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://creditinfocenter.com/repair/DisputingWithOriginalCreditor.shtml</a></p>
<p>When writing to the original creditor, state the law clearly and ask them to produce records &#8211; this is a good letter sample:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.creditinfocenter.com/forms/sampleletter17.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.creditinfocenter.com/forms/sampleletter17.shtml</a></p>
<p>There is light at the end of the tunnel&#8230;</p>
<p>Jule</p>
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		<title>By: Bethe A. Strickland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bethe A. Strickland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NCO Financial has again engaged in re-reporting a debt that bought for probably nickels on the dollar that was nearly 4 years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NCO Financial has again engaged in re-reporting a debt that bought for probably nickels on the dollar that was nearly 4 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: newt</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 14:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an account with citibank that i for employment reasons let slip then forgot about.  Upon reviewing my credit report found that of course it was on my report.  then on down i noticed that LVNV funding had the citibank account(only caught this due to the exact amount) and it shows account opened 6-1-2007 for a term of one month.  Is this an example of reaging.  i have disputed it with the reporting companies to no avail as of yet.  What if any recourse do i have.  Is there any point trying to sue or anything.  I am at a loss of what to do if the CRA&#039;s dont fix this

Thanks

Newt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an account with citibank that i for employment reasons let slip then forgot about.  Upon reviewing my credit report found that of course it was on my report.  then on down i noticed that LVNV funding had the citibank account(only caught this due to the exact amount) and it shows account opened 6-1-2007 for a term of one month.  Is this an example of reaging.  i have disputed it with the reporting companies to no avail as of yet.  What if any recourse do i have.  Is there any point trying to sue or anything.  I am at a loss of what to do if the CRA&#8217;s dont fix this</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Newt</p>
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		<title>By: impishredhead</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually some types of accounts CAN legally be re-aged - but only by the original creditor, prior to charge-off, and when all the proper conditions are met in a mutual agreement between debtor and creditor. See http://www.fdic.gov/regulations/laws/rules/5000-1000.html 

Re-aging of accounts by collectors to keep negative information on credit reports longer than allowed by the FCRA is an absolute NO-NO. See http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fcra/johnson.htm and http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/05/ncogroup.htm 

And yes, there is a lot of mis-reporting going on out there, intentionally poisoning reports to inflict more damage than is due, basically to hold the FICO score hostage. We need look no further than the CDIA to see who&#039;s doing it and why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually some types of accounts CAN legally be re-aged &#8211; but only by the original creditor, prior to charge-off, and when all the proper conditions are met in a mutual agreement between debtor and creditor. See <a href="http://www.fdic.gov/regulations/laws/rules/5000-1000.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fdic.gov/regulations/laws/rules/5000-1000.html</a> </p>
<p>Re-aging of accounts by collectors to keep negative information on credit reports longer than allowed by the FCRA is an absolute NO-NO. See <a href="http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fcra/johnson.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fcra/johnson.htm</a> and <a href="http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/05/ncogroup.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/05/ncogroup.htm</a> </p>
<p>And yes, there is a lot of mis-reporting going on out there, intentionally poisoning reports to inflict more damage than is due, basically to hold the FICO score hostage. We need look no further than the CDIA to see who&#8217;s doing it and why.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint A</title>
		<link>http://budhibbs.wordpress.com/2006/08/30/credit-bureau-reporting/comment-page-1/#comment-7675</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 06:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suzie.. An account can NEVER legally be re-aged. The 7 year reporting window starts the last time the account goes past due and is never brought current +180 days. So technically, if the DOFD (date of first defult) is 01/01/00 the 7 year reporting window would end 07/01/07.. Thats it, thats the end. It does not matter how many times it&#039;s sold, or assinged. Two states over ride this with state law. That is WI and MS because their state laws say once the debt is past the statue of limitation for suing all collection activity MUST stop. This includes removing their information from your credit report.

The fico black mail that is currently going on is..

Junk Debt Buyers reporting as factoring companies and showing debts that where never installment accounts as installment accounts. Updating or reposting a collection account every month so it looks fresh to the fico system. Reporting wrong, higher amounts owed. Showing collection accounts as 30-120 days past due. (they don&#039;t have due dates..) and the such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzie.. An account can NEVER legally be re-aged. The 7 year reporting window starts the last time the account goes past due and is never brought current +180 days. So technically, if the DOFD (date of first defult) is 01/01/00 the 7 year reporting window would end 07/01/07.. Thats it, thats the end. It does not matter how many times it&#8217;s sold, or assinged. Two states over ride this with state law. That is WI and MS because their state laws say once the debt is past the statue of limitation for suing all collection activity MUST stop. This includes removing their information from your credit report.</p>
<p>The fico black mail that is currently going on is..</p>
<p>Junk Debt Buyers reporting as factoring companies and showing debts that where never installment accounts as installment accounts. Updating or reposting a collection account every month so it looks fresh to the fico system. Reporting wrong, higher amounts owed. Showing collection accounts as 30-120 days past due. (they don&#8217;t have due dates..) and the such.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzie Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzie Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 00:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - I would certainly like to see a response on the re-aging issue as well. I read that accounts can only be re-aged twice in 5 years. This ?collection? practice appears to be a form of FICO blackmail. - Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; I would certainly like to see a response on the re-aging issue as well. I read that accounts can only be re-aged twice in 5 years. This ?collection? practice appears to be a form of FICO blackmail. &#8211; Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzie Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzie Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 00:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for a major financial services co in the credit card services department. Their response to credit lending abuses is merely lip service. It doesn&#039;t matter what &quot;changes&quot; the majors make to their own grade A credit card offerings via terms and conditions disclosure, etc, they make up for it by continuing deceptive, unethical and abusive practices within their &quot;private&quot; portfolios. I consider the industry ethics abhorrent, they prey on those that can ill afford it, who continue to pay, hoping to improve their credit. The poor stay poor, the rich take advantage of the system. Why would the credit bureaus be any different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for a major financial services co in the credit card services department. Their response to credit lending abuses is merely lip service. It doesn&#8217;t matter what &#8220;changes&#8221; the majors make to their own grade A credit card offerings via terms and conditions disclosure, etc, they make up for it by continuing deceptive, unethical and abusive practices within their &#8220;private&#8221; portfolios. I consider the industry ethics abhorrent, they prey on those that can ill afford it, who continue to pay, hoping to improve their credit. The poor stay poor, the rich take advantage of the system. Why would the credit bureaus be any different?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 06:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE:  Who needs FICO anyway?

I have a real problem with FICO!  First of all, who determined that FICO should be the &quot;Gold Standard&quot; for creditworthiness?  Remember, this is a PRIVATE company, and so are the Credit Bureaus!  Who gave PRIVATE companies ALL of this power?  I never got to vote on this, in our &quot;so-called&quot; DEMOCRATIC government!  Secondly, where did ANY of us &quot;AGREE&quot; to be bound by FICO?  Isn&#039;t this FICO &quot;scoring system&quot; an implied Agreement that was NEVER disclosed to any of us?  I surely didn&#039;t sign up NOR did I ever agree to be bound by FICO, but apparently, every car dealership, every home builder/financial institution has used FICO to undoubtedly &amp; unfairly make our credit scores LOWER so that they (banks/lending institutions) can make MORE interest(%) on loans, etc., thus keeping ALL of us LONGER in DEBT!  Of course, if you don&#039;t agree to the company&#039;s &quot;policies&quot; that extend you credit, then they simply REFUSE to do business with you.  So, the TRAP is set, to FORCE us into a highly UNFAIR &quot;credit reporting system&quot; by PRIVATE companies, used by other PRIVATE companies, whose &quot;policies&quot; are NEVER in your favor!   Thirdly, if there isn&#039;t, there should be an OPTION to &quot;opt-out&quot; of FICO, as I share the same thoughts as many of you, that FICO does not accurately represent the creditworthiness of an individual (i.e. FICO doesn&#039;t list assets vs. debt, debt ratio %, etc.  Fourthly, there used to be a credit system that judged a person&#039;s credit based on BILL PAYMENTS, PAYMENT HISTORY, etc.  There&#039;s a fine distinction I&#039;d like to share, there&#039;s a BIG difference in payment history/making payments on time VS. a FICO Score.  For example, I have 15 accounts that have ALWAYS  been paid on time, and I&#039;ve NEVER been late on ANY payment(s); however, my FICO score is as low as 605.  So, in my case, I can&#039;t even get a &quot;Fair&quot; loan because I don&#039;t have above a 650 FICO score.....!!! Unbelievable!!!  Now, how does a person, such as me, have a &quot;perfect&quot; payment history forever, and I&#039;ve NEVER been late on any payments whatsoever, have a 605 FICO score?  That, to me, is truly astounding!!!!!  If a bank looked at my payment history, I&#039;d be a PERFECT candidate for a loan, yet FICO says that I&#039;m a deadbeat, dumb, not a sound financial risk, etc.  In my opinion, FICO is unlawful, unjust and completely slanted in favor of the banks/lending institutions.  

My thoughts going forward:  Start a Corporation, Get a D&amp;B#, Build Corporate Credit, Add Good Accounts to your D&amp;B file by CONTROLLING your own credit/building your own credit history, and throw your FICO in the El-Trash-o!  Personally, I don&#039;t care what the credit bureaus do, as I am voluntarily REMOVING myself from a system that does NOT do anything to help an individual, but is set up (perhaps by design) to ALWAYS make the consumer LOSE &amp; the banks WIN!  There is NO &quot;WIN&quot; in sight, when we are bound by FICO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  Who needs FICO anyway?</p>
<p>I have a real problem with FICO!  First of all, who determined that FICO should be the &#8220;Gold Standard&#8221; for creditworthiness?  Remember, this is a PRIVATE company, and so are the Credit Bureaus!  Who gave PRIVATE companies ALL of this power?  I never got to vote on this, in our &#8220;so-called&#8221; DEMOCRATIC government!  Secondly, where did ANY of us &#8220;AGREE&#8221; to be bound by FICO?  Isn&#8217;t this FICO &#8220;scoring system&#8221; an implied Agreement that was NEVER disclosed to any of us?  I surely didn&#8217;t sign up NOR did I ever agree to be bound by FICO, but apparently, every car dealership, every home builder/financial institution has used FICO to undoubtedly &amp; unfairly make our credit scores LOWER so that they (banks/lending institutions) can make MORE interest(%) on loans, etc., thus keeping ALL of us LONGER in DEBT!  Of course, if you don&#8217;t agree to the company&#8217;s &#8220;policies&#8221; that extend you credit, then they simply REFUSE to do business with you.  So, the TRAP is set, to FORCE us into a highly UNFAIR &#8220;credit reporting system&#8221; by PRIVATE companies, used by other PRIVATE companies, whose &#8220;policies&#8221; are NEVER in your favor!   Thirdly, if there isn&#8217;t, there should be an OPTION to &#8220;opt-out&#8221; of FICO, as I share the same thoughts as many of you, that FICO does not accurately represent the creditworthiness of an individual (i.e. FICO doesn&#8217;t list assets vs. debt, debt ratio %, etc.  Fourthly, there used to be a credit system that judged a person&#8217;s credit based on BILL PAYMENTS, PAYMENT HISTORY, etc.  There&#8217;s a fine distinction I&#8217;d like to share, there&#8217;s a BIG difference in payment history/making payments on time VS. a FICO Score.  For example, I have 15 accounts that have ALWAYS  been paid on time, and I&#8217;ve NEVER been late on ANY payment(s); however, my FICO score is as low as 605.  So, in my case, I can&#8217;t even get a &#8220;Fair&#8221; loan because I don&#8217;t have above a 650 FICO score&#8230;..!!! Unbelievable!!!  Now, how does a person, such as me, have a &#8220;perfect&#8221; payment history forever, and I&#8217;ve NEVER been late on any payments whatsoever, have a 605 FICO score?  That, to me, is truly astounding!!!!!  If a bank looked at my payment history, I&#8217;d be a PERFECT candidate for a loan, yet FICO says that I&#8217;m a deadbeat, dumb, not a sound financial risk, etc.  In my opinion, FICO is unlawful, unjust and completely slanted in favor of the banks/lending institutions.  </p>
<p>My thoughts going forward:  Start a Corporation, Get a D&amp;B#, Build Corporate Credit, Add Good Accounts to your D&amp;B file by CONTROLLING your own credit/building your own credit history, and throw your FICO in the El-Trash-o!  Personally, I don&#8217;t care what the credit bureaus do, as I am voluntarily REMOVING myself from a system that does NOT do anything to help an individual, but is set up (perhaps by design) to ALWAYS make the consumer LOSE &amp; the banks WIN!  There is NO &#8220;WIN&#8221; in sight, when we are bound by FICO.</p>
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